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Old May 9th, 2023 #1
James Radov
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Lightbulb Homosexuality in Ancient Greece - One Big Lie

Alexander the Great is another popular example. Even though the available historical sources clearly indicate that the Greek king had different female lovers each night, he is considered the most famous gay man of antiquity, simply because a screenwriter in Hollywood imagined him as one. In reality, Alexander the Great most likely slept with more women than Hugh Hefner! But how did we end up with these false misconceptions about ancient Greek society and homosexuality?

The whole thing officially opened up by Kenneth Dover's work Greek Homosexuality in 1978. Since then, as MacDowell points out , homosexuality in ancient Greece “has been discussed a good deal, mainly from a sociological and anthropological point of view.” However, few mention Athenian laws against homosexuality . It wouldn’t be much of an exaggeration to speculate that a decorated and experienced historian such as Dover avoided this account of the official stance of Athens on homosexuality. Instead, he based his research and conclusions on certain pieces of such art as vase painting... However, few mention Athenian laws against homosexuality.

https://www.ancient-origins.net/hist...greece-0011232
 
Old May 9th, 2023 #2
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Dr.Oliver quote

Among the Greeks, the extraordinarily gifted people who were the real creators of our civilization, homosexuality appears to have been an alien corruption.
It was unknown in the Homeric epics, although in later times perverts, who are incapable of understanding masculine friendship and always seek any pretext to justify themselves, tried to read homosexual implications into the comradeship of Achilles and Patroclus.
The aetiological myths all suggest a foreign origin: one states that the vice was invented by Laius in Thebes (where there was a pre-Greek Semitic element), and another claims that it originated in Crete (where the Mycenean Greeks ruled a native population of undetermined ethnic origin) — and we know that centuries later, as Aristotle (Pol., II, 10, 9 = 1271a) remarked with astonishment, on that island homosexuality was permitted by law, perhaps as a means of avoiding overpopulation.
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Originally written for inclusion in Frederick Seelig’s book Destroy the Accuser, this is Professor Revilo P. Oliver’s learned and insightful analysis of the homosexual question.
https://www.revilo-oliver.com/news/2...homosexuality/
 
Old May 9th, 2023 #3
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Thank you for starting this excellent thread, James. Here's a good video about the subject:

Homosexuality in Ancient Greece - The Myth is Collapsing

 
Old May 9th, 2023 #4
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Yeah, funny how the so-called "historians" who promote the myth that ancient Greece was a homosexual paradise just happened to be homosexuals themselves. Like that John Boswell faggot, who even died of AIDS:

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John Eastburn Boswell (March 20, 1947 – December 24, 1994) was an American historian and a full professor at Yale University. Many of Boswell's studies focused on the issue of religion and homosexuality, specifically Christianity and homosexuality. All of his work focused on the history of those at the margins of society.

His first book, The Royal Treasure: Muslim Communities Under the Crown of Aragon in the Fourteenth Century, appeared in 1977. In 1994, Boswell's fourth book, Same-Sex Unions in Pre-Modern Europe, was published. He died that same year from AIDS-related complications.
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Boswell's methodology and conclusions have been disputed by many historians.[9][10][11][12][13][14][15]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Boswell
 
Old June 14th, 2023 #5
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The Lie Told to Us About Our History | Ancient Greece

Everyone knows the Ancient Greeks were gay right? How has this lie seemingly permeated the minds of everyone in society? I think this is just one instance, one I happen to feel strongly about, of people writ large allowing themselves to be taken in by a story, without considering whether or not it may actually be true. I made this video to do my small part to correct this error, and defend the men who I view as the progenitors of much of western society. I hope it can serve as a reminder to you going forward that vigilance paid towards such lies is the only way to keep them from spreading and doing their harm.

 
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